tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post5993917096794316499..comments2024-03-26T09:32:26.565-05:00Comments on Sherlock Peoria: And sometimes, after a case, they cuddle . . .Sherlock Peoriahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09896656391037436805noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-90506633089753233162013-05-30T20:41:57.216-05:002013-05-30T20:41:57.216-05:00Brad - I, too, must take issue with the very notio...Brad - I, too, must take issue with the very notion of Jeremy Brett being past his sexual prime. The man was still absolutely stunning when he portrayed Holmes. And while Mr. McCallister may visualize a younger pairing--and Cumberbatch/Freeman are adorable--, I had Jeremy Brett in my head all during "Kissing Sherlock Holmes." And a very lovely visual it was, too.T. D. McKinneyhttp://www.tdmckinney.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-38189604609892063622013-05-24T08:48:40.142-05:002013-05-24T08:48:40.142-05:00It's taken me a little while to work through a... It's taken me a little while to work through a good pastiche I got in April at the 221B-CON, "Kissing Sherlock Holmes" by T. D. McKinney and Terry Wylis. While reading this book, I have in my minds eye a Cumberbatch/Freeman-ish pair (not to mention the character-avatars from the CON). That vision has made all the difference. While Brad can tell you I'm more of an "old-school" Sherlockian, I thought this was very well done, and I'd like to think it is right on the mark for the current trend. If you want to take the plunge into some non-objectionable homoerotic pastiche, Kissing SH would make a good first choice and I recommend it. It may not be the Canon, but I'll gladly read more from McKinney and Wylis - and look to see them at 221B-CON #2 in Atlanta next year (BTW,neither could possibly be the person negatively decribed above - they're great folks).<br /> <br /> I wasn't always of this point of view. Probably twenty years ago- 1992 or so, I got "The Sexual Adventures of SH" at the Mysterious Bookstore in NYC. I have to admit I was sort of warned against it by the clerk, but got it anyway, and was hoping for "sprightly" material. In fact it was very un-appealing and very homosexually violent. Later I read some of the SH-meets-Oscar Wilde stuff, and most of it seemed a little too agenda-pushing for my taste. If I want sex and gender agendas, I prefer Irene types in vamp/domina modes (although maybe I'm more into Isadora Klein territory these days - and do pass the langur, Professor). Even now, I expect that the soft-touch non-confrontational approach won't be to everyone's taste, but I think McKinney and Wylis have it right- at least in this genre. <br /> David R. McCallisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-64222238224897943532013-04-22T07:31:11.457-05:002013-04-22T07:31:11.457-05:00Ah, you're right, sorry. Kirk/Spock was more p...Ah, you're right, sorry. Kirk/Spock was more prominent then than Holmes/Watson.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04066417080920042579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-51983527678486779642013-04-22T06:37:01.250-05:002013-04-22T06:37:01.250-05:00I take issue with your comment that "the Rath...I take issue with your comment that "the Rathbone/Brett sort of Sherlocks" were past their "sexual prime." Brett was 51-61 years old when he played the great detective. My husband (16 years my senior) was 42 when we married. He is now almost 59. I can speak from experience when I say, in that department, some men, like fine wine, get better with age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-18297734185248458842013-04-22T06:28:41.039-05:002013-04-22T06:28:41.039-05:00Sorry, but you kind of skipped the words "maj...Sorry, but you kind of skipped the words "major source." I was aware of the slash from Granada, but in the pre-internet days, it was a very minor part of the fanfic I saw at cons.<br /><br />And that lady holding the panel at 221B Con? They're right. She was a self-promoter who was bugging both old school Sherlockians and new school Sherlockians alike. I knew one person who avoided every panel she was on. Not expecting the crowds they were going to get, the organizers accepted whoever stepped up early on, and got one or two clunkers. Sherlock Peoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09896656391037436805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-90579494372039248542013-04-22T00:23:35.816-05:002013-04-22T00:23:35.816-05:00"It's taken decades for Sherlock and John..."It's taken decades for Sherlock and John to catch up to Jim and Spock as a major source of slash fan fiction, but thanks to Cumberbatch and Freeman, the day is finally here."<br /><br />Erm... no. There's been Holmes/Watson slash fiction out there before Sherlock. I know some resonating from the Granada series - although I really never could see those two getting it on.<br /><br />http://www.oblique-publications.net/fandom.html#sherlock<br />http://www.liquidfic.org/katie.html<br /><br />Apparently there were some grumblings regarding the sexuality panel at 221B-Con as it was felt that the lady holding the panel didn't know what she was talking about.<br /><br />http://abundantlyqueer.tumblr.com/post/48352857692/obviously-songlinwrites-snogandagrope-reblogged-yourAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04066417080920042579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-12609169351765004632013-04-21T15:29:46.067-05:002013-04-21T15:29:46.067-05:00What was it you said about unfulfilled needs? lol ...What was it you said about unfulfilled needs? lol We'll see if Elementary's Irene keeps her clothes on or not!<br /><br />As far as slash in Sherlockian fandom goes I'll freely admit to reading and enjoying it as I do more typical pastiches. I'm with Oscar Wilde in that a book is not moral or immoral but either well or badly written. But sweet mother of Doyle, is this a taboo subject in certain Sherlockian circles!<br /><br />I hope you are ready for the consternation you're probably going to get from some Sherlockian traditionalists for even bringing up the topic of Holmes'sexuality. It's long been accepted that Holmes was asexual even though statistically that is the least likely orientation. And because Conan Doyle didn't make him overtly gay (not that he could and still get published) then, my goodness, that is not possible! And Watson couldn't have been gay, either, because he got married several times and everyone knows gay men never marry wo... oh never mind. <br /><br />Only Conan Doyle can say with certainty what went on in the bedrooms in 221b, and he ain't saying, but it irritates me that no one can even entertain the possiblity of Holmes/Watson or Holmes/insertnamehere without receiving the censure of their Sherlockian peers.<br /><br />So thank you for this post. It's refreshing to see someone with BSI after their name -- and a male someone at that -- bring up this topic and decide it's no big deal. Because it really, really, isn't. Mary Lovinghttps://www.facebook.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-57066920378039885922013-04-21T15:13:11.520-05:002013-04-21T15:13:11.520-05:00And besides, in the Basil Rathbone/Jeremy Brett so... And besides, in the Basil Rathbone/Jeremy Brett sort of Sherlocks, our favorite detective was past his sexual prime anyway, and the question really didn't matter." Middle-age men past their sexual prime? TMI.James C. O'Learyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13866010043246236340noreply@blogger.com