tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post4637421634138918042..comments2024-03-29T08:39:13.121-05:00Comments on Sherlock Peoria: Hyperbolic headlines.Sherlock Peoriahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09896656391037436805noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-78121096033843885542013-06-06T08:58:20.264-05:002013-06-06T08:58:20.264-05:00The classic sexism is there because classic sexism...The classic sexism is there because classic sexism is an everyday reality. Remove that aspect of the show and you present a fairytale world where no man ever needs to be pulled up for their misogynistic remarks or attitudes. Or where Joan, simply by being a woman who is strong and capable, is suddenly immune to bullshit from men. It doesn't work like that, and the writers know it. They also know that good men (Gregson, for example) can be sexist towards women they care for and respect, and that men don't have miraculous changes of attitude after they're called out the first, second, nth time (Holmes). It's realistic. You can't create a feminist show that doesn't acknowledge sexism. Watson as a man doesn't have to deal with it. Make the character a woman, and she does. Simple as that. And it might not seem important to anyone who doesn't personally have to see, hear, think about or put up with sexism on a daily basis, but for those who do, and are shut down whenever they try to point out the problem, it can be incredibly satisfying to watch it being dealt with the way Elementary does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-6594583789365439732013-05-31T22:19:28.363-05:002013-05-31T22:19:28.363-05:00Dick, I've been playing MST3K with Elementary ...Dick, I've been playing MST3K with Elementary on Twitter since perhaps the third or fourth episode. But no offense; I make fun of things I like, too. Just make more fun of things I don't. Remember Holmes with the King of Bohemia? Yeah, it's like that.Jacquelynn Morris, ASH, BSIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14119508492879867877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-17614993965691768452013-05-31T11:53:02.518-05:002013-05-31T11:53:02.518-05:00Thanks for that, Nea. The show's pretense of b...Thanks for that, Nea. The show's pretense of being feminist simply by making Watson female while retaining all the attitudes of classic sexism has been pretty obvious to me, but sometimes I get weary of dealing with its fans on yet another front.Sherlock Peoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09896656391037436805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-67841048112085006832013-05-30T22:35:45.540-05:002013-05-30T22:35:45.540-05:00So the "Superfan" in Flavorwire story wa...So the "Superfan" in Flavorwire story was "wrong" about Elementary because the general TV viewer likes it. I'd say that is right. You are an example of someone who doesn't like it. I assume you are ok if I call you a Superfan or Fanboy? Apparently to more fanatic the viewer the less enjoyment. My problem with the author is her confusion over Jonny and Johnny. Nitpicker that I am. By the way, tonight's Elementary rerun was enjoyable. There was stuff that I missed the first time. I can't wait until the first season DVD is available. Then you can come over and I'll make popcorn and we can play Mystery Science Theater 3000.Richard Sveumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14682153810620384840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-34316693169036396392013-05-30T20:12:00.447-05:002013-05-30T20:12:00.447-05:00"The article itself seems to consider Element..."The article itself seems to consider Elementary a major step for the advancement of women in our culture"<br /><br />In treating transwomen as women and not oddities, yes. In treating a woman of color as just another New Yorker and not an ethnicity, yes. But women in general? Up to The Big Denouement, did the original author miss just how often Joan was hit with gendered insults? From Sherlementary's "father" asking how much of the job was earning her wages on her back, the Irregular asking if she was a prostitute, Sherlementary discussing her cycle in the very classic "Wow, you're being a bitch, are you on the rag?" way... all the way down to Joan losing her apartment because someone shot amateur porn in it. Joan endured a fetid stew of sexism for most of the season, with Sherlementary's respect as a revolting consolation prize for having put up with it at the end. <br /><br />And THEN Gregson does the classic erasure; trying to get the "little woman" out of the line of fire, ignoring her saying no, patronizing that Joan doesn't know what she's getting into.<br /><br />If this is advancement, I hate to think what the author's personal life is like.<br /><br />-- NeaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-58127410076673915002013-05-30T10:55:47.995-05:002013-05-30T10:55:47.995-05:00"The piece is basically a non-Holmes fan expl..."The piece is basically a non-Holmes fan explaining why Jonny Lee Miller seems like Sherlock Holmes to her, even though he doesn't to her friend, the actual Sherlock Holmes fan."<br /><br />You know, I've thought about that a lot today and found that it's probably a problem of finding the Sherlock Holmes you can relate to. For me it was the BBC's. <br /><br />It's not that I had never heard of/read about/seen any Sherlock Holmes related books/films etc. They just left no impression. I even remembered that I had seen some episodes of the Granada series, although I had sworn on a stack of bibles I didn't know it, but I remembered the scene with the boys in front of the shop window and the policeman chasing them away. But that was *all* I remembered.<br /><br />When I saw SH-fanfic anywhere, I thought, "Why are they still writing about that old f*rt? How boring."<br /><br />Then came the Ritchie movie and I was mildly amused. Still not a Holmes-fan and not really into steampunk, but it was entertaining and I thought, "Yes, that's the way to go, get the stuff out of its mothballs, okay."<br /><br />When I saw people writing fanfic about the new stuff, I could at least understand the appeal - even if I didn't feel the slightest compulsion to read any.<br /><br />So, along came the BBC which I didn't intend to watch - not because I found the idea of setting it in the modern era appalling, but simply because I still found SH rather boring. Oh, dear.<br /><br />As I said before I've since read the canon twice and intend to read it again. And, to cut short all the long babble, I have no data and cannot prove it, but from what I gather online "Elementary" isn't doing anything like that for the source material. Few and far between is the E-fan I've heard tell that the show made them connect with the original stories.<br /><br />And I think that is its greatest failure.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04066417080920042579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-64719329570349161652013-05-30T01:12:59.405-05:002013-05-30T01:12:59.405-05:00Thank you for exposing the ridiculousness of those...Thank you for exposing the ridiculousness of those... *snort, breathing fire* ..."articles".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04066417080920042579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6512050174377678428.post-75478145304957775962013-05-29T22:25:18.504-05:002013-05-29T22:25:18.504-05:00But there was no mention of elite devotees! I'...But there was no mention of elite devotees! I'm having an identity crisis. If I'm not an elite devotee, does that mean I'm a superfan? If I don't care for pastiches, might I like something that is MORE than a Sherlock Holmes pastiche?<br /><br />If you need me I'll be over here, reading the Canon. Because honestly, labels and pastiches and TV shows aren't what make me a Sherlockian. Jacquelynn Morris, ASH, BSIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14119508492879867877noreply@blogger.com